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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:55:25 -0600
From: Kurt Seifried <>
To:, David Leon Gil <>,
CC: "" <>,
        Werner Koch <>,
Subject: Re: Re: 0xdeadbeef comes of age: making keysteak with

On 10/10/14 10:37 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On 10/10/2014 12:23 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> On 10/10/2014 12:01 PM, David Leon Gil wrote:
>>>> (While I know that if a root CA were caught intentionally issuing an
>>>> MitM cert for or would face likely
>>>> delisting/bankruptcy.)
>> I'd like to believe that also, but i think that some of the members of
>> the CA cartel might be "too big to fail" in the current infrastructure.
>>  There's no chance that the CA will go bankrupt if they aren't delisted
>> (since the CA market is a lemon market), and every web site certified by
>> the bigger CAs has an incentive to argue against that CAs' delisting
>> (because it will break their web site).
> And, even when we can burn a small CA, the larger organization often
> carries on unharmed:
> 	--dkg

More to the point what happened to the auditors (PWC) that signed off on
them being ok to operate as a CA? Nothing.!topic/

Kurt Seifried -- Red Hat -- Product Security -- Cloud
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