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Message-ID: <4B99223E.7030608@stafford.uklinux.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:02:54 +0000 From: Brian Stafford <brian@...fford.uklinux.net> To: Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@...e.de> Cc: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com, libesmtp@...fford.uklinux.net, security@...ntu.com Subject: Re: CVE Request: libesmtp does not check NULL bytes in commonName Ludwig Nussel wrote: > Brian Stafford wrote: > >> [...] >> I find myself coming back to RFC 2818 being a reasonable choice since it >> is flexible and (almost) clear, and since HTTPS, as a major user of TLS, >> is, I assume, well analysed for security implications wrt certificate >> validation. >> > > More fun: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159483 > Aargh! I'm half way down this discussion and already I'd prefer to stick needless in my eyes. So far though consensus seems to be RFC 2818 rules for wildcards. I notice some of the test patterns suggested would not work in libESMTP as it stands. > >> Is it the case that for STARTTLS in SMTP what we are really interested >> in is encrypting the data on the wire and authentication is only of >> secondary importance? >> > > Encryption without authentication makes you prone to MITM. > Indeed. > >> Do we know what the best current practice is >> among CAs when it comes to issuing certificates for STARTTLS? >> > > The most common implementation is to just allow the simple form > *.something so I'd assume that other patterns are rare in the wild. > The last commenter in the aforementioned Mozilla bug says that > *.*.appspot.com is actually used by Google though. > > Anyways, the matching function in libesmtp certainly is good enough. > I was just surprised that wildcards at the right hand side are > allowed. What about the actual patch I sent though? :-) > I'm happy that the patch jumps through the right hoops though I'm rather out of touch with the OpenSSL APIs these days so there is a certain element of trust here :-) However I did realise there is another problem with the wildcard match. Currently match_component() just steps over text when it sees the '*', however it should really be like a character class i.e. the RE '[-A-Za-z0-9]*'. Currently * will match any old junk in the hostname including punctuation and control codes which gives a possibility of attacking a system using specially crafted hostnames. I shall modify match_component() to deal with this and other issues that may be relevant, after I've waded through the rest of the mozilla thread. > cu > Ludwig > > Rergards Brian
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