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Message-ID: <20220924093106.41e53819@inria.fr>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:31:06 +0200
From: Jₑₙₛ Gustedt <jens.gustedt@...ia.fr>
To: enh <enh@...gle.com>
Cc: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: C23 implications for C libraries
enh,
on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 16:52:53 -0700 you (enh <enh@...gle.com>) wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 8:40 AM Jₑₙₛ Gustedt <jens.gustedt@...ia.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > enh,
> >
> > on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 08:28:52 -0700 you (enh <enh@...gle.com>) wrote:
> >
> > > since you asked for comments, it would have been even better to
> > > have direct links to the relevant documents (such as
> > > https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/WG14/www/docs/n2829.htm for the
> > > assert() changes),
> >
> > yes, the idea is to add such a link when I manage to discuss the
> > particular feature more in detail
> >
>
> that...
wow, that's pushy
> > my hope is also still that we may have a diff-version of the C
> > standard at some point in the nearer future, but it seems that the
> > editors have problems with the tooling for that
> >
>
> ...and that sound even better, yes --- but i always worry about "the
> perfect is the enemy of the good". a 20% solution today is worth more
> to me than a 100% solution a year from now :-)
Much as musl, the C standard is a volunteer project. Instead of
reclaiming things you should ask yourself how can you or your company
help.
As all volunteer work, this is best effort. WG14 would have a much
better stand if more of the industry would inject real work force into
the committee. Currently there seem only be two of the bigger players
that have people there that substantially work on the C standard
during their office hours. The others are mostly academics like myself
and people working in their free time.
Thanks
Jₑₙₛ
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