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Message-ID: <20141225045606.GC13509@openwall.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 07:56:06 +0300
From: "(GalaxyMaster)" <galaxy@...nwall.com>
To: owl-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: owl-startup

Piotr,

First of all, thank you for the elaborate response.  I'll comment on it
in full a bit later.  Please see my brief comments below.

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 01:21:05PM +0100, Piotr Meyer wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 07:39:10AM +0300, (GalaxyMaster) wrote:
> [...]
> > do my job properly I had to learn the design of that framework and it
> > really looks logical and once you jump through the hoops of the learning
> > curve you cannot deny that Poettering and Co did a huge amount of work
> > to standardise the startup & init process.  The documentation is also
> > _very_ good.
> 
> I'm not a Owl developer but as a person very interested in systemd
> development history and whole integration process I strongly disagree
> with your opinion.

I think you are confused.  My opinion (if any) was that a) developers
invested a lot of effort and b) the documentation is good.  I never
advocated that it's a panacea and also I said that it "looks logical"
not that it indeed is.

My point of bringing this discussion on (as you may see from my reply to
croco@) is that we should do something about that.  Either to commit
that we are strongly against getting systemd into Owl or try to pick the
most important parts from that so-called platform to keep compatible
with the rest of RH-based distros.

Anyway, thanks for your original reply -- I'll properly reply a bit
later.

-- 
(GM)

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