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Message-ID: <20210811153158.gt6uk4qqaqw7lzo2@redhat.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 10:31:58 -0500
From: Eric Blake <eblake@...hat.com>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: STARTTLS vulnerabilities

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 08:16:34AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
> Of course it's a very obvious idea for further research to look if one
> finds similar vulnerabilities to the ones we found in other protocols.
> So I'd really like to encourage other people to look for this.
> 
> FWIW there are a lot of protocols with a STARTTLS mechanism, here's the
> list of supported protocols by OpenSSL:
> 	smtp
> 	pop3
> 	imap
> 	ftp
> 	xmpp
> 	xmpp-server
> 	telnet
> 	irc
> 	mysql
> 	postgres
> 	lmtp
> 	nntp
> 	sieve
> 	ldap

Not mentioned in that list was ndb, but as far as I can tell, that
project has already documented the ramifications of opportunistic
encryption as being a security risk, and all known implementations
(both servers and clients) with TLS support have a mode of execution
that ensures the connection is dropped if a downgrade attack is
attempted:

https://github.com/NetworkBlockDevice/nbd/blob/master/doc/proto.md#security-considerations
https://lists.debian.org/nbd/2021/08/msg00031.html

But I welcome review from those with more experience from the security
side of things.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org

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