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Message-ID: <20200720183532.GA11008@openwall.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:35:32 +0200
From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Cc: volkerdi@...ckware.com
Subject: Re: Flatcar membership on the linux-distros list

Hi Vincent,

I intentionally didn't hurry to comment on this, hoping that others
would comment first.  I would still appreciate more comments by others.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:20:07PM -0400, Vincent Batts wrote:
> Using the
> https://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros#membership-criteria
> I???m outlining why Flatcar Container Linux ought to be on the linux-distros
> list.

Thanks.  Much of this looks convincing to me, but here are some comments:

> We have already been a participant on oss-security for some time and are
> active in a number of communities. Glad to participate.

Vincent, as far as I could find, you personally have subscribed to
oss-security 2 months ago, and I couldn't find anyone else from Flatcar
Linux subscribed.  (Maybe people are with personal addresses that I
didn't associate with Flatcar Linux.)

I also found only this one posting to Openwall lists by you:

https://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2017/02/03/38

This is good, but it's not a lot.

What I see on the Flatcar Linux website is more convincing, but maybe
you can point us at specific examples of community participation by you
personally and/or by others at Flatcar Linux?

> > Be able and willing to contribute back (see above), preferably in
> specific ways announced in advance (so that you're responsible for a
> specific area and so that we know what to expect from which member), and
> demonstrate actual contributions once you've been a member for a while
> 
> There are a number of the items we will do through the course of normal
> process (review, test, validate, monitor for issues going public). As for
> owning or being a backup, I expect that would be a consideration after
> being a member for a period.

As I recall other applications to join the linux-distros list since we
introduced this contribute-back requirement, distros volunteered for
some tasks right away, not "after being a member for a period."  What
you say makes sense, but would be a deviation from the practice so far.
I'd appreciate not needing to make an exception for you.

> Pat Volkerding can vouch for me (CC???ed), and maybe others, but I asked
> volkerdi first :-)

We haven't yet heard from Pat Volkerding.  Given your LinkedIn profile,
I guess someone from Red Hat could vouch for you as well.

Alexander

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