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Message-ID: <d49124e0c81f204be7733c397539cc077ccd2a44.camel@debian.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 17:41:49 +0200
From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@...ian.org>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Thousands of vulnerabilities, almost no CVEs:
 OSS-Fuzz

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On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 11:53 +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> So it's a matter of "do I live with all of the bugs that everyone else
> knows about and how to exploit, or do I live with a potential
> regression?"  That sounds like an easy choice given that the reason you
> should be updating is to resolve all of those known bugs :)

I'm not really talking about potential regressions: I'm talking about real
functional changes that the end-user doesn't expect (nor want) in a stable
release. Backporting is often a pain, but full throttle to latest release also
has a burden (for the end-user, for the distributor and so on). It really
depends on the project (and I don't want to point fingers, it's not the
point).
> 
> Regressions always happen, we are human, but there are ways to mitigate
> them (testing, roll-back, preventing developers from not breaking things
> on purpose, etc.)  And projects that do not do this type of work to
> prevent regressions need to learn that they should change, or users will
> go elsewhere.

But then again the question is, who do the work (of backporting, regression
testing, etc.) And again it's not always about bugs, it might very well be
that there's a user interface change requiring a lot of documentation updates
downwards, a dependency chain update or whatever.

There might be good reasons for stability, even besides not introducing new
bugs, that was just my point.

Regards,
- -- 
Yves-Alexis
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