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Message-ID: <CABniQZPtHV+-XiHPRUGcDe+KwEd1JpPdcDb2Xn63t2Z_Os6ETQ@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 23:26:00 +0800 From: Shawn <citypw@...il.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Cc: Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net>, pageexec@...email.hu, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Re: More CONFIG_VMAP_STACK vulnerabilities, refcount_t UAF, and an ignored Secure Boot bypass / rootkit method Hi Linus, Not sure how you got the conclusion like "Their patches are pure garbage."( https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2540934.html). I'm wondering why there's a group of ppl called themselves KSPP got paid by big corps are still trying to copy+paste PaX/Grsecurity to the upstream if you think it's a garbage? Did you try to tell KSPP guys to stop their work( cc'ing kernel-hardening mailinglist)? It's so obvious to see the most security work( more than just a specific OS) originally done by PaX/Grsecurity: https://github.com/hardenedlinux/grsecurity-101-tutorials/blob/master/kernel_mitigation.md And my customers has been suffering from your philosophical ideas of "A bug is bug" for too long. I really respect your contributions( linux kernel/git) to the FLOSS world. But even the open source king can't change the truth: https://github.com/hardenedlinux/grsecurity-101-tutorials/blob/master/kernel_vuln_exp.md btw: You didn't answer Brad's question. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net> wrote: >> >> BTW, we're happy to go toe-to-toe with you here in public on actual facts >> instead of pathetic ad hominems. > > Quite frankly, I'd much rather see *you* actually send in patches that > are acceptable for inclusion, something you've never done. > > As it is, other people have tried to clean up parts of the grsecurity > patches, and tried to make them acceptable. > > Wouldn't it be nice if you actually tried to make the baseline actually better? > > Please. > > Linus -- GNU powered it... GPL protect it... God blessing it... regards Shawn
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