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Message-ID: <87tx0ok7zt.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:28:38 +0100 From: Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: can we talk about secure time? * Dave Horsfall: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> [...] but I have the impression that the correct clock changes every >> couple of years. > > This sounds like you're referring to leap seconds, No, I meant the recommend time to use in this context. If clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) is the right choice, that's good, because it has vdso accelleration (but I don't know how effective that is in practice). On some systems, obtaining time is really painfully slow. [*] > where due to the > Earth's rotation slowing down (as determined by the International Earth > Rotation Service), an extra second is inserted every so often, typically > in July; it's quite fun watching it on a GPS receiver (assuming that it > even survives the event, as I've seen a few cheaper ones lose the plot). GPS time does not have leap seconds. [*] If you upgrade OpenSSL and RAND_bytes is suddenly so much slower, that's the place to lookâupstream mixes not just the PID, but also the current time into the pool to achieve more complete fork protection.
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