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Message-ID: <542436C9.1080502@case.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 11:37:45 -0400 From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@...e.edu> To: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> CC: chet.ramey@...e.edu, oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: CVE-2014-6271: remote code execution through bash On 9/24/14, 10:47 PM, Solar Designer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:12:08PM -0400, Chet Ramey wrote: >> There are several options for making shell functions inherited via the >> environment more robust, none of them backwards compatible. I will >> choose one and implement it for a future bash version. > > While we're at it, I think it's preferable not to output error messages > triggerable by untrusted input, e.g.: > > $ ssh -o 'rsaauthentication yes' 0 '() { ignored; }; /usr/bin/id' > bash: warning: SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND: ignoring function definition attempt > bash: error importing function definition for `SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND' > > (as seen with the current bash patches). This might be unnecessarily > revealing or/and it might confuse whatever other program was invoking > something via bash, resulting in attacker-triggerable unintended > behavior in that caller program. Yes, there are numerous other error > conditions anyway - such as running out of memory - which may result in > messages printed to stderr. Yet we might want to avoid printing error > messages for environment variable value parsing errors (ideally, we'd > avoid the parsing itself as well), unless a debugging or a verbose mode > is enabled locally (in a way that can't realistically be triggered via > an unsuspecting network service). I disagree. It's important for a program -- not just the shell -- to tell the user when it attempts to do something on his behalf and is unable to do it. Chet -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, ITS, CWRU chet@...e.edu http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/~chet/
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