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Message-ID: <51F75DF9.6030203@redhat.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:32:25 -0600
From: Kurt Seifried <kseifried@...hat.com>
To: Donald Stufft <donald@...fft.io>
CC: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: CVE Request: Insecure Software Download in pip

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On 07/30/2013 12:28 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
> 
> On Jul 30, 2013, at 2:21 AM, Kurt Seifried <kseifried@...hat.com 
> <mailto:kseifried@...hat.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Signed PGP part On 07/27/2013 01:10 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Kurt Seifried
>>> <kseifried@...hat.com
>> <mailto:kseifried@...hat.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 07/25/2013 03:09 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to request a CVE for pip 
>>>>> (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip/).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The mirroring support (-M, --use-mirrors) was implemented 
>>>>> without any sort of authenticity checks and is downloaded
>>>>> over plaintext HTTP. Further more by default it will
>>>>> dynamically discover the list of available mirrors by
>>>>> querying a DNS entry and extrapolating from that data. It
>>>>> does not attempt to use any sort of method of securing this
>>>>> querying of the DNS like DNSSEC. Software packages are
>>>>> downloaded over these insecure links, unpacked, and then
>>>>> typically the setup.py python file inside of them is
>>>>> executed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The vulnerable code is located at: - 
>>>>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/pip/index.py#L60-L64
>>
>>>>> 
>>> -
>>>>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/pip/index.py#L205-L207
>>
>>>>> 
>>> -
>>>>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/pip/index.py#L553-L572
>>
>>>>> 
>>> -
>>>>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/pip/index.py#L999-L1024
>>
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> The affected versions are every released version since 0.8.1
>> which
>>>>> are: 0.8.1, 0.8.2, 0.8.3, 1.0, 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.1, 1.2,
>>>>> 1.2.1, 1.3, 1.3.1, 1.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not aware of this issue having ever had a CVE requested
>>>>> for it and my attempts to search the CVE database did not
>>>>> appear to turn up anything relevant but the search doesn't
>>>>> appear to be the greatest so I may have missed it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm hoping to land a patch for this in a future release 
>>>>> (current iteration of patch available at 
>>>>> https://github.com/dstufft/pip/compare/remove-mirror-support)
>>
>>>>> 
>>> but there is no planned fix version as of yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 
>>>>> 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
>>>> 
>>>> Was it supposed to be secure (like was this explicitly
>>>> supposed to be all encrypted/etc.)? This sounds more like
>>>> security hardening than a security vulnerability.
>>>> 
>>>> - -- Kurt Seifried Red Hat Security Response Team (SRT) PGP: 
>>>> 0x5E267993 A90B F995 7350 148F 66BF 7554 160D 4553 5E26 7993
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The mirroring protocol explicitly included provisions for 
>>> verification which was not being done.
>>> 
>>> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0381/#mirror-authenticity
>>> 
>>> ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA //
>>> 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
>>> 
>> 
>> So to confirm, we're talking about the line:
>> 
>> "Verification is not needed when downloading from central index,
>> and should be avoided to reduce the computation overhead."
>> 
>> So accessing the central index is done over HTTP by default, no 
>> support for HTTPS previous to commit 
>> https://github.com/pypa/pip/commit/e80c387a26858c4d7ff43c5f030b04b03fd43dfe
>>
>> 
correct?
>> 
>> - -- Kurt Seifried Red Hat Security Response Team (SRT) PGP:
>> 0x5E267993 A90B F995 7350 148F 66BF 7554 160D 4553 5E26 7993
>> 
>> 
> 
> The central index is pypi.python.org <http://pypi.python.org> and 
> historically (and at the time of that commit) it was not accessed
> securely (plaintext HTTP, no authenticity checks etc). The 
> mirroring support, (located at, a.pyp.python.org
> <http://a.pyp.python.org>, b.pypi.python.org
> <http://b.pypi.python.org>, …) which that commit adds and PEP381 
> deals with, was supposed to have authenticity checking preventing
> a malicious mirror operator from attacking you by checking a html
> manifest that included hashes was signed by a key owned by the
> central index (pypi.python.org <http://pypi.python.org>). That
> commit does not include checking that the mirrors are not hosting
> content that differs from the central index.
> 
> So basically the lack of authenticity checking when installing
> directly from the central index is a separate issue which has been
> (mostly) addressed with pip 1.3, and more so with 1.4. However this
> request deals explicitly with the implementation of the protocol
> for installing from the hosts that mirror the central index, but
> are not the central index.
> 
> For what it's worth my PR to fix it is here
> https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/1098
> 
> Between myself, the comment on the PR, and the mailing list I have
> 3 pip developers +1ing the change so it's likely it's going to land
> unless one of the others has concerns.
> 
> ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B
> 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
> 

So does this need two CVEs potentially? E.g. one for the central issue
and one for the mirror issue? In any event if it's the same issue but
they get fixed in different versions that would trigger a CVE split.

- -- 
Kurt Seifried Red Hat Security Response Team (SRT)
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