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Message-ID: <51B152CE.20209@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:26:06 -0600
From: Kurt Seifried <kseifried@...hat.com>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: chroots & uid sharing
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On 06/06/2013 12:17 PM, Seth Arnold wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 03:02:37PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld
> wrote:
>> What I wonder is how many distros are shipping various daemons
>> that run under the nobody user, with certain ones chrooting and
>> others not. How should we handle this?
>
> We can handle nobody well enough by correcting its mis-use every
> time we spot it. There are enough purpose-specific users on a
> typical system these days to just give the impression that any new
> service should get its own corresponding user, so the temptation to
> use 'nobody' is lower than it used to be.
>
> Of course, if a different user account gets abused for both
> chrooted and non-chrooted use, that's harder to combat, short of
> reminding people that chroot is filesystem and _only_ filesystem..
I literally can't remember when people started saying "if you're using
chroot for security, you're doing it wrong" it was a long time ago. At
least a decade for myself and I wasn't the first person (that probably
goes to the BSD guys and jail()):
http://seclists.org/vuln-dev/2002/May/419
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Kurt Seifried Red Hat Security Response Team (SRT)
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