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Message-Id: <201103141428.59764.ludwig.nussel@suse.de> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:28:59 +0100 From: Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@...e.de> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Untrusted fs and invalid filenames Stephan Mueller wrote: > Am Samstag, 12. März 2011, um 18:03:45 schrieb Vasiliy Kulikov: > > What I suggest is something like "-o untrusted" option to mount. This > > would mean that the system considers the input from such fs as a malicious > > input. Such mounted fs would try to consider the data on disk as > > untrusted and to be as robust as possible, e.g. check against > > "/"-filenames, against corrupted fs structures, etc. I'd be happy to > > hear opinions about the usefulness of this feature. > > I completely second your concerns. > > However, how do you propose to implement that "untrusted" option? The core > problem IMHO is that the physical layout and structure in a file system is > assumed to be correct in general by the kernel. The physical file system > implementations (including any depending code, like the LSMs for interpreting > XATTRs) have some checks for an input validation. But I highly doubt that all > checks necessary for an untrusted file system layout are implemented - to have > all such checks would cause some speed penalties nobody wants to carry. For the hot plugged USB drive case speed of the file system shouldn't be much of a concern. I wonder whether it would be possible to create a wrapper API that allow to compile kernel fs modules as user space programs for use with e.g. fuse. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg)
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