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Message-Id: <20090416154805.3E0351F3E9E@spike.porcupine.org> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:48:05 -0400 (EDT) From: wietse@...cupine.org (Wietse Venema) To: Tomas Hoger <thoger@...hat.com> CC: wietse@...cupine.org, oss-security@...ts.openwall.com, coley@...us.mitre.org Subject: Re: Re: Some fun with tcp_wrappers Tomas Hoger: > Hi Wietse! > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:59:20 -0400 (EDT) wietse@...cupine.org (Wietse > Venema) wrote: > > > Tomas Hoger: > > > The good_client (tcp_wrappers wrapping function in portmap / > > > nfs-utils / ...) problem is rather interesting too, as it creates > > > problems due to its attempt to avoid unneeded DNS lookups > > > (workaround for hosts_ctl limitation?) and support host aliases > > > (tcp_wrappers limitation). > > > > See my previous email. Programs such as portmappers must not look > > up hostname information, since that would result in an infinite > > recursion when host lookups use SUNRPC services. To state the > > obvious: the portmapper would directly or indirectly send SUNRPC > > calls to itself, in order to locate the NIS server. > > Thank you for pointing this problem out. And my apologies for not > digging deep enough into peculiarities of RPC and making a conclusions > based on the code already used in the wild. It seems that portmappers > do name resolution, even if they should not. > > Current upstream portmap code has a compile-time option that enables > name resolution (along with proper warnings): > http://neil.brown.name/git?p=portmap;a=commitdiff;h=b663f78b86 > > but the variants of this (buggy) patch without such ENABLE_DNS define > and proper warnings are used in the wild. Additionally, portmap also > has an explicit check for local access and does not call tcp_wrappers > at all in such case, probably to avoid the problem you have mentioned. > Is there a case when even that is insufficient? I worked last on this program 13 years ago. If I recall correctly the from_local() test will avoid certain screwups, but a full analysis will take time, and I am short on that. Wietse > > Before discussing changes to a program, it is a good investment of > > time to find out how the program works, and why it works in the > > specific way it works. > > I obviously erred on this! Though with code being copied across > projects, getting changes that are not always correct, or copying > special handling to projects where it is not needed, makes it rather > complicated to not miss some whys or always distinguish correct changes > from incorrect ones. Nobody has perfect knowledge of everything, that's > when objective feedback from subject experts is greatly appreciated and > desired to not miss any gotchas and have all pros and cons to make the > decision.
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