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Message-ID: <kpaq6m4zbcl5gdtahqwafvd55oohb3aumfbqe5wdmjju5znfbj@2qeoli6wcifg> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:11:16 +0000 From: NRK <nrk@...root.org> To: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> Cc: Jₑₙₛ Gustedt <jens.gustedt@...ia.fr>, musl@...ts.openwall.com, Mike Cui <cuicui@...il.com> Subject: Re: Potential bug in __res_msend_rc() wrt to union initialization. > That's simply not true. There is no difference in the rules as > specified by the standard. I don't think your assertion is correct, at least it hasn't been demonstrated. > ¶19 says: > > "all subobjects that are not initialized explicitly shall be > initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static > storage duration." > > The term "subobject" does not seem to be defined, so there's some > ambiguity, but I would read ¶19 as applying the above text about > static unions to automatic ones. The term subobject might not be clearly defined but there's a strong indication that it refers to objects contained within an aggregate, and NOT members of a union. Consider the following case: struct { int a; int b; } object = { .a = 5 }; Assuming `a` and `b` are subobjects, `a` will be initialized to 5 and `b` to 0. Which makes sense and is consistent with all existing implementation I'm aware of. Now consider the same with a union: union { int a; int b; } object = { .a = 5 }; If `b` is a subobjects then it should be initialized to zero according to the rule. But that can't happen since that'd overwrite the value of `a`. This to me is a convincing case that subobjects do not refer to union members, as there can be only 1 active at a time. Now I don't agree with clang's decision to not zero the entire union in case of `{0}`. It's unnecessarily hostile, brings negligible (if any) gains and *will* be causing bugs (this is the 2nd one I'm witnessing). But as it currently stands, it's not a wrong interpretation of the standard either. If the intention was to have no difference between {0} and {} it has not been written down clearly. - NRK
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