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Message-ID: <20190724213129.GG1506@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:31:29 -0400 From: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Removing glibc from the musl .2 ABI On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 07:36:00PM +0200, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > * James Y Knight <jyknight@...gle.com> [2019-07-24 09:33:05 -0700]: > > One thing I've not seen mentioned yet: if this is done, then anyone > > (whether intentionally or inadvertently) who links any glibc-compiled .o or > > .a files into a musl binary/shared-lib will be broken. > > > > Up until now, with musl's mostly-glibc-compatible ABI, you could link the > > two object files together, and generally expect it to work. When > > compatibility is instead done with magic in the dynamic loader, that > > obviously can only ever work with a shared-object boundary. > > > > I don't know if anyone actually uses musl in a context where this is likely > > to be a problem, but it at least seems worth discussing (and loudly > > documenting as a warning to users not to do this if implemented). > > is it common that binary only .o or .a is distributed? > > binary only shared libs with glibc dependency are fairly > common (plugins, userspace driver code etc). i think the > abi compat was mainly intended to support that. It may be common with proprietary middleware or userspace-drive stuff for hardware devices, where presumably the idea of shipping a static lib rather than a shared one is that you don't ship usable copies of the middleware vendor's library too your customers along with your product. Rich
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