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Message-ID: <20190326150430.GY23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:04:30 -0400
From: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Supporting git access via smart HTTPS protocol for
 musl-libc

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 03:32:46PM +0530, vlse wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:59:37PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 07:24:35AM +0530, vlse wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 09:37:06PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 08:17:26PM -0500, A. Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On 03/25/19 20:09, vlse wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But for internet git access, either ssh or https smart protocol use
> > > > > > is necessary to prevent man in the middle attack.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The request is reasonable. HTTPS is *not* "trivial to MITM", and
> > > > essentially impossible to do so without detection and a trail of
> > > > you can also verify authenticity of a git repo via "git fsck" and a
> > > > known good source of the commit hash (e.g. cgit over https).
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes. cgit over https. We need a secure start first.
> > > 
> > > > > > Please consider giving secure git access. Also smart http/s protocol
> > > > > > is way better than dumb protocol. It avoids downloading too much data
> > > > > > again and also shows progress and stats.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Of course the git transport won't be taken away. I'd like to add https
> > > > support, but I'm not sure how to do it without a nasty bloated httpd
> > > > that would increase server resource requirements by 1-2 orders of
> > > > magnitude. If anyone knows a way to hook up thttpd to it, I'll give it
> > > > a try.
> > > 
> > > Nginx is bloat free I think. But perhaps not in comparison to thttpd.
> > > I will look how to support cgit http/s with thttpd using a hook.
> > > 
> > > At skarnet.org, the author is using busybox httpd with cgi support and
> > > cgit cgi hooks to give http/s git access.
> > 
> > OK, that sounds promising. If it can be done with cgi, it should be
> > easy to setup, assuming the git client is forgiving of thttpd's
> > slightly non-conforming cgi behavior regarding headers.
> > 
> > Rich
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On further enquiry I found that the latest cgit only supports dumb http protocol
> for cloning or fetch. But it has option to disable the http/s cloning support,
> so that another program can do it. Sorry, I was on the impression that skarnet was
> supporting git http/s smart protocol by using cgit itself.
> 
> So we have to setup the git-http-backend provided with git-scm to work with web
> server cgi setup. Again the examples given at upstream site is with apache.

As long as it's cgi and not sensitive to thttpd cgi conformance
issues, it should work.

> So I am thinking of trying setting up thttpd with git-scm for support of http/s smart
> protocol locally in my linux machine.
> 
> So I want to know the
> Source of thttpd your are running on git.musl-libc.org
> Version of thttpd
> 
> Latest upstream version: https://acme.com/software/thttpd/thttpd-2.29.tar.gz

It's the version in Alpine Linux which also has some significant bug
fixes on top of that.

> Also I find you are providing https version of git.musl-libc.org site.
> thttpd does not supports https. Are you using stunnel for it?

I'm presently using haproxy's TLS-layer (vs HTTPS-layer) proxying,
because stunnel suggers from a 2.5-decades-old wrong handling of TCP
connection closing that makes it unusable, and because haproxy is what
I knew at the time. I think openssl s_server could handle it too, but
might not support SNI (?). What I'd really prefer is a non-broken
stunnel workalike using BearSSL as the backend, since BearSSL is the
only non-awful TLS implementation. If anyone wants to work on
something like that I'd be happy to test and eventually dogfood it on
musl site.

Rich

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