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Message-ID: <20140726174730.GA11205@euler> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:48:30 +0200 From: Felix Janda <felix.janda@...teo.de> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: More GNU semantics for getopt_long? Rich Felker wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:12:36AM +0200, Felix Janda wrote: > > I have had two problems with the fact that musl's getopt_long() does > > not behave as applications expect. > > > > > > No argument reordering: > > > > musl's getopt_long() behaves similarly to POSIX getopt() and therefore > > stops after the first non-option argument. This for example makes the > > utilities widl and wrc from wine when compiled with musl libc behave > > This has been discussed a few times and could possibly be changed. > Some consideration is needed for whether it leads to problematic > inconsistency between getopt and getopt_long, but I don't think so. > The worst part is that it makes it impossible to get conforming > behavior from GNU coreutils since there would be no way to override > the reordering (whereas, if they replace getopt_long with their own > version, it can be overridden by setting the POSIXLY_CORRECT > environment variable). The BSDs seem to have this inconsistency between getopt and getopt_long as well. Their getopt_long also respects POSIXLY_CORRECT, though. This is IMO something musl should do as well when possibly introducing the reordering of arguments in future. > > differently than for everyone else. In particular, this breaks the > > (git) wine build itself, since its generated Makefiles call widl with > > mixed option and non-option arguments. > > > > Should wine use a (runtime) config test detecting whether > > getopt_long() does argument reordering and use its internal copy of > > getopt_long() if not? Should the Makefile generation be carefully > > rewritten such that non-options are given last? > > I'm not a fan of the misordered options/non-option-arguments, so I'd > recommend "fixing" that in the Makefile even if musl's behavior > changes. Note that the build process probably breaks if the user has > POSIXLY_CORRECT set in their environment since this turns off the GNU > reordering in glibc. Good, I have a patch for their Makefile generation. Thanks for pointing out that the build should also break for others when POSIXLY_CORRECT is set. > > It seems difficult to upstream any of these. The config test > > seems like a test specific to exclude musl and the second is > > likely to break in the future and who knows what scripts might > > depend on the argument reordering of widl. > > > > > > No abbreviations: > > Oh, there was a patch submitted for this one, and I thought I > remembered applying it, but perhaps not. I'll go back and look. There > might have still been some open issues with it to be resolved before > applying. > > > I noticed that there is a patch from Michael Forney on the mailing > > list implementing the abbreviated options but there were not any > > comments on it. > > Yes that's it. Thanks for revisiting the patch. Felix
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