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Message-ID: <m1lfavt0bf.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:56:04 -0600 From: ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman) To: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> Cc: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>, Serge Hallyn <serge@...lyn.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>, Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, Dominik Brodowski <linux@...inikbrodowski.net>, John Johansen <john.johansen@...onical.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Kentaro Takeda <takedakn@...data.co.jp>, Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ux.microsoft.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] fs: Allow no_new_privs tasks to call chroot(2) Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> writes: > From: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ux.microsoft.com> > > Being able to easily change root directories enable to ease some > development workflow and can be used as a tool to strengthen > unprivileged security sandboxes. chroot(2) is not an access-control > mechanism per se, but it can be used to limit the absolute view of the > filesystem, and then limit ways to access data and kernel interfaces > (e.g. /proc, /sys, /dev, etc.). Actually chroot does not so limit the view of things. It only limits the default view. A process that is chrooted can always escape by something like chroot("../../../../../../../../.."). So I don't see the point of allowing chroot once you are in your locked down sandbox. > Users may not wish to expose namespace complexity to potentially > malicious processes, or limit their use because of limited resources. > The chroot feature is much more simple (and limited) than the mount > namespace, but can still be useful. As for containers, users of > chroot(2) should take care of file descriptors or data accessible by > other means (e.g. current working directory, leaked FDs, passed FDs, > devices, mount points, etc.). There is a lot of literature that discuss > the limitations of chroot, and users of this feature should be aware of > the multiple ways to bypass it. Using chroot(2) for security purposes > can make sense if it is combined with other features (e.g. dedicated > user, seccomp, LSM access-controls, etc.). > > One could argue that chroot(2) is useless without a properly populated > root hierarchy (i.e. without /dev and /proc). However, there are > multiple use cases that don't require the chrooting process to create > file hierarchies with special files nor mount points, e.g.: > * A process sandboxing itself, once all its libraries are loaded, may > not need files other than regular files, or even no file at all. > * Some pre-populated root hierarchies could be used to chroot into, > provided for instance by development environments or tailored > distributions. > * Processes executed in a chroot may not require access to these special > files (e.g. with minimal runtimes, or by emulating some special files > with a LD_PRELOADed library or seccomp). > > Allowing a task to change its own root directory is not a threat to the > system if we can prevent confused deputy attacks, which could be > performed through execution of SUID-like binaries. This can be > prevented if the calling task sets PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS on itself with > prctl(2). To only affect this task, its filesystem information must not > be shared with other tasks, which can be achieved by not passing > CLONE_FS to clone(2). A similar no_new_privs check is already used by > seccomp to avoid the same kind of security issues. Furthermore, because > of its security use and to avoid giving a new way for attackers to get > out of a chroot (e.g. using /proc/<pid>/root), an unprivileged chroot is > only allowed if the new root directory is the same or beneath the > current one. This still allows a process to use a subset of its > legitimate filesystem to chroot into and then further reduce its view of > the filesystem. > > This change may not impact systems relying on other permission models > than POSIX capabilities (e.g. Tomoyo). Being able to use chroot(2) on > such systems may require to update their security policies. > > Only the chroot system call is relaxed with this no_new_privs check; the > init_chroot() helper doesn't require such change. > > Allowing unprivileged users to use chroot(2) is one of the initial > objectives of no_new_privs: > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/userspace-api/no_new_privs.html > This patch is a follow-up of a previous one sent by Andy Lutomirski, but > with less limitations: > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/0e2f0f54e19bff53a3739ecfddb4ffa9a6dbde4d.1327858005.git.luto@amacapital.net/ Last time I remember talking architecture we agreed that user namespaces would be used for enabling features and that no_new_privs would just be used to lock-down userspace. That way no_new_privs could be kept simple and trivial to audit and understand. You can build your sandbox and use chroot if you use a user namespace at the start. A mount namespace would also help lock things down. Still allowing chroot after the sanbox has been built, a seccomp filter has been installed and no_new_privs has been enabled seems like it is asking for trouble and may weaken existing sandboxes. So I think we need a pretty compelling use case to consider allowing chroot(2). You haven't even mentioned what your usecase is at this point so I don't know why we would tackle that complexity. Eric
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