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Message-ID: <20180306190720.GK25181@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 20:07:20 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> Cc: Daniel Micay <danielmicay@...il.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, PaX Team <pageexec@...email.hu>, Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@....com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, "Dmitry V . Levin" <ldv@...linux.org>, Emese Revfy <re.emese@...il.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>, "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>, Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@...gle.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Josef Bacik <jbacik@...com>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@...wei.com>, David Woodhouse <dwmw@...zon.co.uk>, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Dominik Brodowski <linux@...inikbrodowski.net>, Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>, Mathias Krause <minipli@...glemail.com>, Vikas Shivappa <vikas.shivappa@...ux.intel.com>, Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com>, Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@...tuozzo.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v9 4/7] x86/entry: Erase kernel stack in syscall_trace_enter() On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:56:58AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 7:16 AM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay@...il.com> wrote: > > > > Zeroing locals isn't very expensive because the compiler has a chance > > to optimize it out when it can figure out it isn't needed and they're > > almost always used. > > I thought I saw Kees with some stats, and it wasn't even noticeable. > But maybe I mis-remember. > > I definitely like the "zero local variables", and would actually > prefer something even stronger than GCC_PLUGIN_STRUCTLEAK_BYREF_ALL > (although I can't actually read gcc plugins, so I'm just going by > name). > > It's not necessarily just struct, it can very much be arrays and > regular automatic variables too. > > And yes, we might want to have some override switch for individual > variables ("I really know what I'm doing and I promise I fill it > myself, but the compiler doesn't understand me, look here:"). Right, I have one case in perf where we very carefully pass a partially initialized structure around for performance raisins. So I would definitely like to have that attribute that allows us to over-ride that BYREF_ALL thing.
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