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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:06:16 -0700
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
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Subject: Re: x86: PIE support and option to extend KASLR randomization

On 09/22/17 11:57, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:38 AM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
>> We lose EBX on 32 bits, but we don't lose RBX on 64 bits - since x86-64
>> has RIP-relative addressing there is no need for a dedicated PIC register.
> 
> FWIW, since gcc 5, the PIC register isn't totally lost. It is now
> reusable, and that seems to have improved performance:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html

It still talks about a PIC register on x86-64, which confuses me.
Perhaps older gcc's would allocate a PIC register under certain
circumstances, and then lose it for the entire function?

For i386, the PIC register is required by the ABI to be %ebx at the
point any PLT entry is called.  Not an issue with -mno-plt which goes
straight to the GOT, although in most cases there needs to be a PIC
register to find the GOT unless load-time relocation is permitted.

	-hpa

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