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Message-ID: <20170531005633.484a2e14@alans-desktop>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 00:56:33 +0100
From: Alan Cox <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Matt Brown <matt@...tt.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
Boris Lukashev
<blukashev@...pervictus.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
"Serge
E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com,
linux-security-module
<linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel
<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v7 2/2] security: tty: make
TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN
> This is my point. Apps will continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Of course
> the correct response to one of these vulns is to not pass ttys across a
> security boundary. We have an opportunity here to reduce the impact of this bug
> class at the kernel level.
Not really.
If you pass me your console for example I can mmap your framebuffer and
spy on you all day. Or I could reprogram your fonts, your keyboard, your
video mode, or use set and paste selection to write stuff. If you are
using X and you can't get tty handles right you'll no doubt pass me a
copy of your X file descriptor in which case I own your display, your
keyboard and your mouse and I don't need to use TIOCSTI there either.
There are so many different attacks based upon that screwup that the
kernel cannot defend against them. You aren't exactly reducing the impact.
Alan
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