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Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D5F4FD6A3@AcuExch.aculab.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:52:25 +0000 From: David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM> To: 'Kees Cook' <keescook@...omium.org>, "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> CC: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, "kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>, "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>, "sparclinux@...r.kernel.org" <sparclinux@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-ia64@...r.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@...r.kernel.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, "Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@...hat.com>, "linux-arch@...r.kernel.org" <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>, "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>, Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>, "linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>, PaX Team <pageexec@...email.hu>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>, Mathias Krause <minipli@...glemail.com>, Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@...el.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>, David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Laura Abbott <labbott@...oraproject.org>, Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net>, "Ard Biesheuvel" <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>, Daniel Micay <danielmicay@...il.com>, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>, Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>, "linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net> Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 00/11] mm: Hardened usercopy From: Kees Cook > Sent: 15 July 2016 22:44 > This is a start of the mainline port of PAX_USERCOPY[1]. ... > - if address range is in the current process stack, it must be within the > current stack frame (if such checking is possible) or at least entirely > within the current process's stack. ... That description doesn't seem quite right to me. I presume the check is: Within the current process's stack and not crossing the ends of the current stack frame. The 'current' stack frame is likely to be that of copy_to/from_user(). Even if you use the stack of the caller, any problematic buffers are likely to have been passed in from a calling function. So unless you are going to walk the stack (good luck on that) I'm not sure checking the stack frames is worth it. I'd also guess that a lot of copies are from the middle of structures so cannot fail the tests you are adding. David
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