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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLXDmyGqXWqFp4dzmKmmfmZ+dW53200OByS2+0_63CT+Q@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:25:45 -0800 From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> To: Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@...oraproject.org>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, "kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] lkdtm: Add READ_AFTER_FREE test On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> wrote: > On 02/22/2016 11:27 AM, Kees Cook wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 02/19/2016 02:19 PM, Kees Cook wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 02/19/2016 11:12 AM, Kees Cook wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Laura Abbott >>>>>> <labbott@...oraproject.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a similar manner to WRITE_AFTER_FREE, add a READ_AFTER_FREE >>>>>>> test to test free poisoning features. Sample output when >>>>>>> no sanitization is present: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [ 22.414170] lkdtm: Performing direct entry READ_AFTER_FREE >>>>>>> [ 22.415124] lkdtm: Value in memory before free: 12345678 >>>>>>> [ 22.415900] lkdtm: Attempting to read from freed memory >>>>>>> [ 22.416394] lkdtm: Successfully read value: 12345678 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> with sanitization: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [ 25.874585] lkdtm: Performing direct entry READ_AFTER_FREE >>>>>>> [ 25.875527] lkdtm: Value in memory before free: 12345678 >>>>>>> [ 25.876382] lkdtm: Attempting to read from freed memory >>>>>>> [ 25.876900] general protection fault: 0000 [#1] SMP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Laura Abbott <labbott@...oraproject.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Excellent! Could you mention in the changelog which CONFIG (or runtime >>>>>> values) will change the lkdtm test? (I thought there was a poisoning >>>>>> style that would result in a zero-read instead of a GP?) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There was a zeroing patch in the first draft but given the direction >>>>> things are going, I don't see it going in. I'll mention the debug >>>>> options which will show this though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ah! Okay, I was having trouble following what was happening. What's >>>> the current state of the use-after-free protections you've been >>>> working on? >>> >>> >>> >>> Based on discussion, the SL*B maintainers want to use the existing >>> slab poisoning features instead adding in new hooks. They also don't >>> want the fast path to be affected at all. This means most of the >>> actual work there is improving the performance of slub_debug=P. I >>> sent out patches for some low hanging fruit in SLUB which improved >>> the performance by a good bit. Those have been Acked and are sitting >>> in Andrew's tree. The next performance work involves more in depth >>> tinkering with the SLUB allocator. Apart from just performance, the >>> other work would be poisoning for caches with ctors in SLUB and >>> poisoning in SLOB. I could use some help with benchmarking some >>> actual use cases to see how usable slub_debug=P would be on some >>> use cases. >>> >>> I did sent out patches for the buddy allocator as well. The last >> >> >> This must be where my confusion stems. :) IIUC, the buddy allocator is >> used within the SL*B logic when splitting/joining regions? Can we add >> an lkdtm test for this too? >> > > The buddy allocator backs the underlying SL*B logic. Each SL*B allocation > is typically less than a page so those allocators manage the smaller > allocations. I was thinking about an LKDTM test for the buddy allocator > as well. I'll see about adding one. This would be useful for testing > debug_pagealloc as well. > > >>> >>> version I sent out didn't get much in the way of feedback except >>> for some requests for benchmarks on the zeroing. I was planning >>> on following up on that next week to see if there was any more feedback >>> and beg for Acks. >> >> >> If you can point me at the current tree, I'd be happy to run some >> benchmarks. >> > > mmotm should have the patches > http://git.cmpxchg.org/cgit.cgi/linux-mmotm.git/ > Turn on CONFIG_PAGE_POISONING and set page_poison=on on the command line. Okay, it looks like the combinations to test are: default: DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=n PAGE_POISONING=n heavy-duty: DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=y (ARCH_SUPPORTS_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=y) debug_pagealloc=on random poison only: DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=n PAGE_POISONING=y PAGE_POISONING_NO_SANITY=y PAGE_POISONING_ZERO=n page_poison=on zero poison only: DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=n PAGE_POISONING=y PAGE_POISONING_NO_SANITY=y PAGE_POISONING_ZERO=y page_poison=on random poison with sanity: DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=n PAGE_POISONING=y PAGE_POISONING_NO_SANITY=n PAGE_POISONING_ZERO=n page_poison=on zero poison with sanity: DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=n PAGE_POISONING=y PAGE_POISONING_NO_SANITY=n PAGE_POISONING_ZERO=y page_poison=on -- Kees Cook Chrome OS & Brillo Security
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