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Message-ID: <a795cc83bb9f43f315f2d898825b4ad8@smtp.hushmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:42:11 +0100 From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: NetNTLMv1 and MSCHAPv2 On 1 Feb, 2013, at 4:24 , Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote: > Anyhow, I've attached a patch that tries to speedup cmp_all() by use of > a bitmap. This only makes sense when cmp_all() is called multiple times > per crypt_all()'s actual processing - that is, when cracking two or more > C/R pairs at once. There's a check for that in the code. Moreover, use > of the bitmap is automatically disabled when the C/R pair count reduces > to 1. I noticed the formats are significantly faster in unstable than in bleeding, with 1500 c/r real (Test Suite) runs: [bleeding-jumbo]$ ../run/john ../test/mschapv2_tst.in -fo:mschapv2 -inc:digits mschapv2: Note: slow loading. For short runs, try mschapv2-naive instead (using --format=mschapv2-naive). That version loads faster but runs slower. Loaded 1500 password hashes with 1500 different salts (MSCHAPv2 C/R MD4 DES [128/128 SSE2 intrinsics 12x]) 12345 (u-28-mschapv2) 1 (u-8-mschapv2) guesses: 2 time: 0:00:00:18 DONE (Thu Feb 7 00:45:18 2013) c/s: 9246M trying: 83536777 - 83536784 [unstable-jumbo]$ ../run/john ../test/mschapv2_tst.in -fo:mschapv2 -inc:digits mschapv2: Note: slow loading. For short runs, try mschapv2-naive instead (using --format=mschapv2-naive). That version loads faster but runs slower. Loaded 1500 password hashes with 1500 different salts (MSCHAPv2 C/R MD4 DES [128/128 SSE2 intrinsics 12x]) 12345 (u-28-mschapv2) 1 (u-8-mschapv2) guesses: 2 time: 0:00:00:16 DONE (Thu Feb 7 00:46:18 2013) c/s: 10402M trying: 83536777 - 83536784 That's 12.5%. For NTLMv1, it's even worse: 8760M vs. 10402M or 18.7%. It's not a general issue, NT does have a slight regression too but nowhere near this much. I assume this is some unfortunate effect of bleeding's bitmap and changed hash tables sizes? Maybe a number of factors just happen to line up with bad luck here? magnum
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