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Message-Id: <56A97ACA-397A-48FE-87C6-0181FB3F7D13@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:31:04 -0400 From: David Jones <jonesd@...umbus.rr.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Cc: David Jones <jonesd@...umbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: runtime plugins, FMT_MAIN_VERSION, and OpenVMS support (was: New core (?) LM fails alignment) On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Solar Designer wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:59:21AM -0500, jfoug wrote: >> With the addition of new param values (salt/bin align), should the fmt_main >> version number be kicked up from 10 to 11, or do we simply ignore that >> version 10 ever really 'existed'? > > The "OpenVMS support 2.4" plugin by David Jones is the only runtime > plugin so far, but it does exist. It's listed at: > > http://openwall.info/wiki/john/patches#Other-files-closely-related-to-patches-found-on-this-page > > I think it checks for version 9. So until we update this one, merely > moving from version 9 to 10 is sufficient - no need to update to 11 and on. > We just need to break compatibility with this one plugin gracefully, > since we already broke it anyway. The run-time check isn't explicitly for version 9, but that it matches the value of FMT_MAIN_VERSION at the time the plugin was compiled. There are a couple compile-time checks that initialize the fmt_main structure differently based on a greater-than-8 or 9-or-greater version number. > > Also, I think we should integrate this OpenVMS support code, likely > with changes (replace explicit pthreads with OpenMP? or just omit > threads support initially, to simplify integration - then enhance?) The code compiles in a single-threaded non-pthread form if HAVE_PTHREADS is not defined. I'll have to study how other formats use OpenMP to see how much work is involved in replacing the parallel processing support. > Then get rid of the runtime plugins support for now since I see almost > no use for it at least in its current Linux-only form. Is jumbo officially Linux-only now? I notice the unrar stuff has some GNU C dependencies. >>Dave
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