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Message-ID: <20141229201946.GA25271@czajka.smutek.pl> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:19:46 +0100 From: Piotr Meyer <aniou@...tek.pl> To: owl-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: owl-startup On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:38:36PM +0300, (GalaxyMaster) wrote: > [skipped] > > > In the abovementioned situation, I never asked anyone to take my logs away > > and, more importnatly, I gained NOTHING I need, only the trouble. > > I think you've missed the point: journald works _together_ with a syslog > daemon. If you don't run a syslog daemon, then you have an option to > have binary logs only (through journalctl), however, most people are > using syslog daemons to get textual logs. To be honest - I don't see advantage in putting into log chain additional, fragile[1] element who loses logs[2] and is exceptionally slow (RHEL7 works around pitiful journald performance by putting binary logs in ramfs, as I see). 1 - https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1284749.html https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74280 2 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762700 Regards, -- Piotr 'aniou' Meyer
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