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Message-ID: <OF03B26176.73F97638-ON85256E85.00506641-85256E85.005084CD@medstar.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:39:38 -0400 From: Luke.K.Franzelas@...star.net To: owl-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Question: John The Ripper and Word-list issues with Windows versions I am new at this so please don't be brutal :) I have searched the Openwall page for a JTR faq and I'm either blind or this is the method of asking questions. (I am probably blind) I hope this is the appropriate forum to ask my question. I have downloaded and installed the john-16W zipped version of JTR. The brute force method that runs by typing "john.exe <passwordfile> seems to run fine. However, when I want to do just a dictionary check I type this command "john.exe -w:<wordfile> <passwordfile> I get the following output: john.exe -w:english.txt passshadow.txt Loaded 3 passwords with 3 different salts (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:01 100% c/s: 126501 trying: z's - zygote It seems that only the tail end of the wordlist is being used against the passwordfile. I have tried multiple different word lists. I have even tried removing the sections of the wordlist that were successfully attempted and repeating. This only produced similar results by only indicating the new tail end of the password file. The unshadowed password and shadow file I am using is from a test box where I know what all the passwords are. One of the passwords is "password" The word "password" is in my english dictionary list and does not appear to be tried against any of the accounts. When I create a new dictionary list with just the word "password" in it the user account is cracked. So it appears that the entire dictionary word list is not being utilized when running the software. Similarly when I run the follwing command the dictionary wordfile only seems to use more of the word list but does not crack the test user account with the simple "password." I redo the unshadow on the original passwd and shadow files and alter the password list name to ensure that it is not remembering the cracked passwords from earlier. The result is as follows. john.exe -show passwordtest.txt root:root01:0:1:Super-User:/:/sbin/sh (it seems that it remembers the root password crack) 1 password cracked, 4 left john.exe -w:english.txt -rules passwordtest.txt Loaded 4 passwords with 4 different salts (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:01 1% c/s: 130816 trying: ribald - risible guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:02 4% c/s: 130880 trying: Lobe - Loomed guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:03 6% c/s: 130901 trying: potholes - primeses guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:05 12% c/s: 130944 trying: trenchtr - turkeytu guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:07 14% c/s: 130962 trying: 1gab - 1gardeni guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:08 17% c/s: 147344 trying: cheeks2 - chuck2 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:10 23% c/s: 144076 trying: armada7 - assign7 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:12 28% c/s: 141898 trying: johann4 - kodak4 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:14 33% c/s: 140342 trying: voyages6 - warmly6 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:16 38% c/s: 139176 trying: sprints? - stared? guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:18 45% c/s: 138268 trying: noveD - sdnomdE guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:20 48% c/s: 137542 trying: Rekcup - Reifirup guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:22 52% c/s: 136948 trying: 2beholde - 2beryl guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:28 66% c/s: 135675 trying: Theory7 - Tickled7 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:30 71% c/s: 135364 trying: Secant8 - Serge8 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:32 76% c/s: 135092 trying: Pilings0 - Planets0 guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:34 80% c/s: 134851 trying: 7owns - 7pander guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:36 83% c/s: 134638 trying: 5inextin - 5inkling guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:38 86% c/s: 134447 trying: 8erasure - 8euphori guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:40 91% c/s: 134275 trying: creoling - dixiing guesses: 0 time: 0:00:00:42 100% c/s: 134090 trying: Yeshivin - Zygoting john.exe -show passwordtest.txt root:root01:0:1:Super-User:/:/sbin/sh 1 password cracked, 4 left What am I doing wrong? How do I improve the output of the wordlist check to ensure it checks all the words and catches simple passwords like "password"?
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