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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2026 08:23:27 +0000
From: "Ammanaghatta Shivakumar, Basavesh" <basavesh.shivakumar@....edu>
To: "musl@...ts.openwall.com" <musl@...ts.openwall.com>,
"tg@...lvis.org"
<tg@...lvis.org>
CC: "Priya, Swarn" <swarn.priya@....edu>
Subject: Re: explicit-path `dlopen` does not satisfy later `DT_NEEDED`
by SONAME
Fair enough and thanks for letting me know.
LLMs are one tool in my workflow. I reproduce and check every report myself before sending it, and I take responsibility for what’s in it. We have found more than 500 bugs in linkers and loaders so far. It has led to works like https://freenode.net/article/binutils-hardens-18-elf-linkers-against-relaxation-heap-corruption. I can give you bug reports and fixes if you really need to know. These tools sit low in the software supply chain, so I’d like to see these bugs fixed before someone exploits them.
I won’t send LLM-assisted material to this list again.
- Basavesh
On Nov 6, 2026, at 11:41 PM, Thorsten Glaser <tg@...bsd.de> wrote:
[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
On Sat, 7 Nov 2026, Ammanaghatta Shivakumar, Basavesh wrote:
An LLM assisted with reducing the reproducer, checking current source, and
drafting this message.
We could tell. Please don’t send “AI” slop if you want humans to read
it, and to act on it. (Also, please do not use the planet-burning
fashtech machine AT ALL.)
Thanks,
//mirabilos
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"responsible LLM usage" is the "clean coal" of the tech world
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