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Message-ID: <ZeAF7wsnG0ZZ1zL7@voyager> Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 05:19:59 +0100 From: Markus Wichmann <nullplan@....net> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Cc: James Tirta Halim <tirtajames45@...il.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] add memcmpeq: memcmp that returns length of first mismatch Am Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:14:27PM +0000 schrieb Thorsten Glaser: > Markus Wichmann dixit: > >4. All the other musl C code avoids misaligned word access. I don't know > >which architecture/ABI doesn't allow it, but it is nevertheless the > > Almost all of them. i386/amd64 penalise it heavily and it can cause > trouble when crossing page sizes, cacheline sizes, etc. as well. On > alpha, many ARM, SPARC, and others, it’s an instant SIGBUS/SIGSEGV. > For i386 and AMD64, musl already performs misaligned access at least in the memset. I can't find a source for it right now, but I believe it was tested to basically make no timing difference inside of a cache line, a very minor difference across cache lines, and a bit of a spike across pages. Of course, only one in 1024 word accesses crosses a page boundary even if misaligned. The idea that misaligned memory access is slow on x86 is a pervasive myth that people really need to get over. Musl doesn't support either alpha or sparc. But according to [1], armv4 was actually worse than the description above: It would actually perform some memory access, but at the address rounded down to a word boundary, and then rotate the resulting value according to the low bits. So that's a new thing to add to my list of horrors. Misaligned accesses crashing I can at least deal with. Misaligned accesses returning the wrong data is a thing that was not on my radar before. They fixed it in armv7, though. The reason I asked, BTW, was because I had always thought PowerPC to be on the list of architectures that don't support misaligned access in the baseline ISA, but actually, most PowerPC implementations do, and also even the most general 32-bit PowerPC architecture description says that an alignment interrupt may be triggered by an integer load/store instruction only when crossing a page boundary. And otherwise there is no issue. Ciao, Markus [1] https://medium.com/@iLevex/the-curious-case-of-unaligned-access-on-arm-5dd0ebe24965
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