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Message-ID: <20231016215307.GE1427497@port70.net> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 23:53:07 +0200 From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@...t70.net> To: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> Cc: Farid Zakaria <fmzakari@...c.edu>, musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Getting access to section data during dynlink.c * Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> [2023-10-16 10:26:04 -0400]: > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 06:06:48PM -0700, Farid Zakaria wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'd like to read some section data during dynlink.c > > Does anyone have any good suggestions on the best way to do so? > > I believe most ELF files ask for the load to start from the start of the > > ELF file. > > > > I see in dynlink.c the kernel sends AT_PHDR as an auxiliary vector -- > > Should I try applying a fixed offset from it to get to the start of the > > ehdr ? > > > > Any advice is appreciated. > > > > Please include me in the CC for the reply. > > I can't recall if I've subscribed. > > Neither the Ehdrs nor sections are "loadable" parts of an executable > ELF file. They may happen to be present in the mapped pages due to > page granularity of mappings, but that doesn't mean they're guaranteed > to be there; the Ehdrs are for the program loader's use, and the > sections are for the use of linker (non-dynamic), debugger, etc. > > In musl we use Ehdrs in a couple places: the dynamic linker finds its > own program headers via assuming they're mapped, but this is rather > reasonable since we built it and it's either going to always-succeed > or always-fail and get caught before deployment if that build-time > assumption somehow isn't met. It's not contingent on properties of a > program encountered at runtime. We also use Ehdrs when loading a > program (invoking ldso as a command) or shared library, but in that > case we are the loaded and have access to them via the file being > loaded. > > Depending on what you want to do, and whether you just need to be > compatible with your own binaries or arbitrary ones, it may suffice to > do some sort of hack like rounding down from the program header > address to the start of the page and hoping the Ehdrs live there. But > it might make sense to look for other ways to do what you're trying to > do, without needing to access non-runtime data structures. note that (not too old) bfd ld and lld defines a hidden linker symbol __ehdr_start that at runtime resolves to where the ehdr is. example: #include <elf.h> #include <stdio.h> __attribute__((visibility("hidden"), weak)) extern char __ehdr_start[]; int main() { if (__ehdr_start) { Elf64_Ehdr *ehdr = (void *)__ehdr_start; printf("ehdr %p\n", ehdr); Elf64_Phdr *phdr = (void *)(__ehdr_start + ehdr->e_phoff); printf("phdr %p\n", phdr); } else printf("__ehdr_start is undefined\n"); // to compare against the actual mappings char buf[9999]; FILE *f = fopen("/proc/self/maps","r"); size_t n = fread(buf, 1, sizeof buf, f); fwrite(buf, 1, n, stdout); } this should work for 64bit elf exe if ehdr is mapped into memory. if you want link time error on an old linker instead of 0 __ehdr_start, then just drop "weak" and the runtime check. (the code as written assumes ehdr is not at exact 0 address, which is guaranteed by usual linux setups)
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