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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2023 23:13:14 +0200
From: Robert Clausecker <fuz@....su>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: strcmp() guarantees and assumptions
Hi Markus,
Am Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 09:33:16PM +0200 schrieb Markus Wichmann:
> Am Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 07:59:57PM +0200 schrieb Robert Clausecker:
> > That's good to hear. Any idea on the “what do existing libc
> > implementations permit” bit?
> >
>
> So I quickly checked musl, dietlibc, bionic, and glibc, and
> unsurprisingly, all of the implementations I looked at allow the strings
> to be unterminated if they mismatch before access becomes restricted.
> This is, of course, an implementation detail that applications must not
> rely on, but it nevertheless is the case.
>
> The problem in your implementation is that the calls to strlen() will
> iterate over both input strings to the end, causing basically a cache
> flush for large inputs, only to then iterate over both inputs a second
> time. Iterating only once is a major benefit, since it avoids half of
> the cache misses.
Of course. This was merely a simple example to demonstrate the general
point. I of course do not plan to do anything like that.
> Also, glibc already has an SSE strcmp implementation you may want to
> look at.
I'm not going to look at glibc as it's LGPL licensed. I am aware of the
Intel implementation, but I don't like that it has to duplicate the code
16 times for each possible misalignment pattern. Without having to
ensure that a cacheline of data is only touched once we confirm there
is no previous mismatch, it might be possible to write simpler code, but
I'm currently not entirely sure how.
> Ciao,
> Markus
Yours,
Robert Clausecker
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