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Message-ID: <20220930194147.GE29905@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 15:41:47 -0400
From: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org>
To: Colin Cross <ccross@...gle.com>
Cc: musl@...ts.openwall.com, Markus Wichmann <nullplan@....net>
Subject: Re: Revisiting LFS64 removal
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 03:29:30PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:35:32AM -0700, Colin Cross wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 5:58 AM Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 04:44:47AM +0200, Markus Wichmann wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 07:07:08PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > > > As an alternative, maybe we should consider leaving these but only
> > > > > under explict _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE rather than implicitly via
> > > > > _GNU_SOURCE for at least one release cycle. This would allow makeshift
> > > > > fixing of any builds that break by just adding -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
> > > > > until a proper fix can be applied.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any preference here?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich
> > > >
> > > > Given that nothing lasts as long as a temporary measure, I'd say it is
> > >
> > > That's not a given for musl, quite the opposite. I would expect it to
> > > last at most a release cycle, possibly even to disappear before then
> > > if distros backport the changes to their development branches early
> > > and find and fix everything.
> > >
> > > > better to rip the band-aid off in one go rather than two. Besides, any
> > > > breakage ought to be able to be dealt with by a simple replacement,
> > > > right?
> > >
> > > It's a simple fix, but the question is how many such simple fixes a
> > > distro might need to make in their packages, and that I don't know.
> > >
> > > If they have a trivial mechanical fix of "add something to CFLAGS"
> > > they can do at first, that lets them build a list of affected packages
> > > while quickly getting them all building again, then work out the right
> > > fixes one at a time according to usual triage rather than being
> > > swamped with these taking priority over issues with more depth.
> >
> > I experimented with building all the host code in the Android tree
> > with these two patches just to measure the damage. The first patch is
> > mostly fine, but causes link failures in rust modules. I think that's
> > due to the upstream rust libc assuming the presence of fstat64, etc.:
> > https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/+/master:external/rust/crates/libc/src/unix/linux_like/mod.rs;l=1665;drc=b38fde0ab980c7d79f0a55aec1b7121022a38257
>
> Thanks for running these checks! Do you know where we go about
> reporting this to the rust folks? I'd like to get the process started
> on getting this fixed asap so hopefully the impact on users is low by
> the time it gets to them.
OK, discussion on IRC turned up the right place to file, and I've
filed it here:
https://github.com/rust-lang/libc/issues/2934
Rich
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