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Message-ID: <20160317155720.GD21636@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:57:20 -0400 From: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: musl licensing On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 08:49:39AM -0700, Hugues Bruant wrote: > > > > And don't get me wrong, I'm probably one of the biggest enemies of > > the term "intellectual property" in the open source context; for > > companies it's another matter, however, we have to play by the > > rules of the system and be clear about what we mean. > > For lawyers, calling something "public domain" doesn't mean much > > to them. So endure the pain, license it under BSD-0, so Google's > > lawyers and future peoples' lawyers are happy and we actually get > > shit done. > > > Or go the SQLite way and charge a fee to get an explicit license for > companies that are not comfortable with Public Domain > > http://sqlite.org/copyright.html I've asked that we try to stay on-topic. The topic is not relicensing or new licensing models (and certainly not unbalanced ones), only fixing the issues that are making Google's lawyers go into paranoid mode. :-) > That's probably much stronger than the musl community would be comfortable > with and also too late as it would require all past contributors to > disclaim copyright, not just Rich but it's worth noting that public domain > ideology is not incompatible with corporate use. I don't think this is entirely accurate because there's plenty of legacy PD code that made it into products with major corporate use. It would take some research to produce a list but I'm quite confident it's there. So the issue is not that "PD is incompatible with corporate use" but (from what I can tell) that corporate lawyers are weary (possibly rightfully so) of new attempts to put things in the public domain without a clear license from the people who would be copyright holders if the material is actually covered by copyright in some or all jurisdictions. I really don't want to be the "new DJB" who's holding out on actually giving proper permissions statements/license as an act of protest (against what?) and I'm hopeful that we can find a nice approach that makes both parties happy. Rich
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