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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:33:31 -0700
From: Tim Hockin <thockin@...gle.com>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Re: Would love to see reconsideration for domain and search
On Oct 24, 2015 12:20 PM, "Kurt H Maier" <khm@....org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:24:11PM -0700, Tim Hockin wrote:
> >
> > I understand your point, though the world at large tends to disagree.
>
> The world at large uses bad software. Please don't use this sort of
> reasoning as a justification for and embrace-extend operation on actual
> standards.
Where is the standard that defines ordering semantics in resolv.conf?
> > The real world is not ideal. Not all nameservers are identically
> > scoped - you MUST respect the ordering in resolv.conf - to do
> > otherwise is semantically broken. If implementation simplicity means
> > literally doing queries in serial, then that is what you should do.
>
> You absolutely cannot respect the ordering in resolv.conf; at least not
> if you're relying on someone else's resolver. If the orchestration
> software depends on specific results being returned in particular
> orders, the orchestration software should provide a mechanism to
> generate them.
>
> > Similarly, you can't just search all search domains in parallel and
> > take the first response. The ordering is meaningful.
>
> It should not be, and more to the point will not reliably be,
> meaningful.
Search has to be ordered. You can not possibly argue otherwise?
> You are arguing for introducing performance penalties into musl that do
> not affect you but do very much affect lots of other users. I hope they
> do not happen -- musl is not the right place to fix your problem.
I am arguing for adding a very standard feature (search) to open musl to a
whole new space of users. Nobody is forcing you to use search paths or
ndots.
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