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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:58:50 -0400
From: Jean-Marc Pigeon <jmp@...e.ca>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: setenv if value=NULL, what say standard? Bug?
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Hello...
[..]
>>
>> As reported, the crashing application is hwclock,
>> (util-linux-2.26), this a kind of code in the field for a very
>> very long time,
>
> And it either crashes every time it's run (for a given
> configuration, at least) or doesn't. If it does you know during
> early testing rather than letting a bug slip through.
>
>> so the library (glibc and old libc) used for linux over the years
>> defined an expected behavior to this "UB".
>
> No, that was merely a bug in glibc, not a feature.
Hmmm... glibc-2.21, setenv.c explicitly check the value NULL
condition, so situation is checked, you could object about
the way program handle it, but it is not a bug (situation
expected and addressed).
> Crashing is inevitable on the vast majority of invalid programs.
> setenv("TZ", (char *)0xdeadbeef, 1); will almost certainly crash,
> and if it doesn't it will likely do something worse.
Fully agreed, this is pure garbage, out of spec. library
will/must crash (protect the hardware).
>
>> (:-} why bother to return an error, just crash for all problems
>> in open, close, write, etc. just bringing the crashing concept to
>> the extreme :-}).
>
>
> int foo(const char *fn) { char buf[2]; strcpy(buf, "hello world,
> and goodbye");
In perfect world, strcpy should crash on the spot not going further.
this is clearly "out of spec" (a far fetch to be UB).
> int fd = open(fn ? fn : buf, O_RDONLY); return fd < 0 ? -1 : fd; }
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