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Message-ID: <20140726090354.GK4038@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:03:54 -0400 From: Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: C11 threads On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:32:55AM +0200, Jens Gustedt wrote: > Anybody with reason and with knowledge of POSIX and C (which are > standards from the same organization, ISO) would just have specified > error codes in line with pthreads. There are not many places in the > standard that uses enumeration constants for a similar purpose, and it > has not much of an advantage. There is the general requirement of the > standard that all constant integer expressions that it defines must be > testable by the preprocessor. I agree that they're ugly and contrary to style used elsewhere in the standard, but I don't see how cross-polluting this mess with errno.h makes it any less offensive. > > It's > > possible that they might match errno values, but that's certainly an > > implementation detail, not something that applications could > > reasonably depend on, and therefore I think it makes no sense to > > require or allow threads.h to expose errno.h. > > As you can see I strongly disagree here. We shouldn't introduce values > that semantically serve as error return values of library functions > and that are not regulated by errno.h and that aren't fixed in > compilation phase 3. Is this just ideological? POSIX has plenty of such values, such as the GAI_*, REG_*, FNM_*, WRDE_*, etc. result codes. Maybe there are not many (any?) in plain C, but C11 added them and I don't think there's any use in trying to change it now... Also C has no precedent for _returning_ error codes (excluding of course Annex K); the errno.h constants are only used with the errno object. Rich
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