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Message-ID: <20121020234422.GT254@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:44:22 -0400
From: Rich Felker <dalias@...ifal.cx>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Add basic sys/cdefs.h found on most unix

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 04:50:13PM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:38:52 +0200
> Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE <awg@...toolkit.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 10/21/2012 01:18 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:15:43 +0200
> > > Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye <awg@...toolkit.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Signed-off-by: Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye <awg@...toolkit.org>
> > >> ---
> > >>   include/sys/cdefs.h |   22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>   1 file changed, 22 insertions(+)
> > >>   create mode 100644 include/sys/cdefs.h
> > > I'm pretty sure that the last three times sys/cdefs.h was proposed, it was rejected.
> 
> > Unfortunately many packages (wrongly?) use to rely on macros defined there,
> > sometimes indirectly via <features.h>.
> Yes, but that wasn't enough of a reason the last three times.
> 
> It isn't standard (-> not universal/portable), is very easily
> replaced, and even if it is added for compatability, it should not
> be used internally.

Not only that; all its macros are explicitly in the namespace reserved
for the implementation, because it's designed to be an internal part
of the implementation of libc's headers, not a public interface.

> I would say that the last point is the most important.

Yes. Even if we eventually do find a compelling reason to offer this
header, there's no reason it should be used internally. Using it is
just more expensive and obfuscated than writing things out explicitly.

Rich

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