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Message-ID: <CAPLrYETa_JAsggXV9f-+3jj3h5YmbSUo2t-0OjaXhaSCqSv=Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:51:03 +0200
From: Daniel Cegiełka <daniel.cegielka@...il.com>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: filesystem layout

2012/9/25 Luca Barbato <lu_zero@...too.org>:
> On 09/25/2012 03:09 PM, Christian Neukirchen wrote:
>> Luca Barbato <lu_zero@...too.org> writes:
>>
>>> On 09/25/2012 01:26 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 01:22:44PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Static linking could be dangerous from a security/maintainance
>>>>> standpoint, but that is me looking at the specific scenarios in which
>>>>> Gentoo shines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a common myth.  lazy or ineffective system management is a
>>>> danger regardless of the linking type.
>>>
>>> Spending lots of time unbundling dependencies from packages so they
>>> could use the up-to-date shared version might bring you to have a bias.
>>>
>>> Any system management that force you to reinstall all your packages
>>> because zlib had a bug doesn't seem efficient.
>>
>> Note that you need to *restart all programs using zlib* anyway.
>> So what's the difference between
>>
>> tar xzpf base.tar.gz
>> and
>> tar xzpf zlib.tar.gz
>
> I guess the whole thing is derailing. You assume that you have a daemon
> or some kind of permanent program, I'm considering all the programs,
> permanent and transient.
>
> Even in your scenario
>
> sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.1-r2: 31 files, 16 non-files, 767.242 KB
>
> Updating zlib would take less than 1mb uncompressed.
>
> Updating a whole system few order of magnitude.

not the whole :)

scanelf -qyRF '%p %n' /bin/ | grep libz.so

This can be done automatically by the installer (package manager).

> Again, we are derailing the purpose of this mailing list.

yup.

Daniel

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