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Message-ID: <20120823122057.GL27715@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:20:57 -0400
From: Rich Felker <dalias@...ifal.cx>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [Vision for new platform] syslog, sed, cron

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 05:33:34PM +0800, orc wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:15:07 +0200
> Jens Staal <staal1978@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> > Den 22 aug 2012 22:09 skrev "Christian Neukirchen"
> > <chneukirchen@...il.com>:
> > 
> > >
> > > Perhaps they fixed it then.  I remember being it the reason I
> > > ported GNU sed to sabotage...
> > >
> > > GNU sed is one of the most unproblematic GNU tools, btw
> > 
> > Of the GNU tools, gawk, gmake and gsed all build without much problem
> > under the Plan9 APE (ANSI POSIX ENVIRONMENT) - so they are pretty
> > portable and independent of the whole GNU echosystem.
> 
> The talk is about how their features can be emulated, not how gnu code
> is portable?
> (Why anyone who uses Plan9 needs gnu tools?)

If the discussion is on how to avoid using a portable, FOSS program
for ideological reasons, that seems, well, valid, but pretty different
from the goal of developing the new platform.

If it's not for ideological reasons but because the GNU programs
introduce unwanted or non-conformant behavior in some ways but are
needed for application compatibility in other ways, then it's a lot
more relevant..

Rich

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