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Message-ID: <4f4e72e6-ad1e-4626-a9de-c67f569526ca@riseup.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:09:33 +0000 From: Patrick Schleizer <adrelanos@...eup.net> To: lkrg-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: LKRG complains about battery being automatically unload > Btw. Do you think that these messages are ambiguous? Yes. These are less than ideal. Here's my view. If nobody else agrees with me on some or all point(s), if I am the only one seeing it that way, it's probably best to keep as is. I'd suggest to discuss any output messages with the most (reasonable) laymen person you can have a chat with. Here are some suggestions. During my 7 years of development of and user support for Whonix, I've written, revised quite some output messages. My suggestions may not be perfect, I am not an UX designer, but perhaps an iteration of improvement. Generally, I would suggest to use all uppercase sparingly. > ALERT !!! FOUND LESS[1] MODULES IN DB IN MODULE LIST[54] THAN IN CURRENT MODULE LIST[55] Since that is to be expected as you explained, that does not sound like that deserves all upper case. Also not the the word "alert". "in db": superfluous, not useful for user. INFO: There were 55 module(s) resident. There is now 1 module(s) less resident. There are now 44 module(s) resident. Module(s) 'battery', 'jitterentropy_rng', '...' was unload. Or maybe: INFO: Modules list: Was: 55 Change: -1. New: 54. Changes: 'battery', 'jitterentropy_rng', '...' Or maybe: INFO: Modules list: Was: 55 Change: -1. New: 54. Load: 'battery', 'jitterentropy_rng', '...' Unload: 'fuse', 'soundcore', '...' Or maybe: INFO: modules amount: Was: 55 Change: +1 New: 54. INFO: modules load: 'battery', 'jitterentropy_rng', '...' INFO: modules unload: 'fuse', 'soundcore', '...' (These ones could even be parsed with scripts if that was useful for anyone.) > EXTRA MODULE: name[battery] module at addr[00000000aae59f0b] module core[00000000d5bd1fc8] with size[0x2000] hash[0xcc42714bdd4f6be7] unload module(s): name 'battery', addr '00000000aae59f0b', module_core '00000000d5bd1fc8', size '0x2000', hash '0xcc42714bdd4f6be7' That should probably not be the spadeful output level. Only at the next higher debug level. > EXTRA MODULE IS THE SAME AS ON-GOING MODULE ACTIVITY EVENTS That one I don't understand. MODULE ACTIVITY EVENTS? > !! MOST LIKELY SYSTEM IS STABLE !! No upper case. No "!!". If previous output was just "INFO:", then there is no need to mention that either. INFO: There were 54 modules resident. There is now 1 module more resident. There are now 55 modules resident. Module(s) 'battery', 'jitterentropy_rng', '...' was load. Kind regards, Patrick
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