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Message-ID: <65c548ad-582b-d03a-87a8-f143ab621b18@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 17:46:26 -0700 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@...ucla.edu> To: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@...il.com> Cc: libc-coord@...ts.openwall.com, Keith Packard <keithp@...thp.com>, Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersmith@...cle.com> Subject: Re: freezero() and freezeroall() On 9/17/21 4:36 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > And what does the function do if the page is co-populated by unrelated > allocations? explicit_bzero is supposed to be used in that case, according to the OpenBSD doc. (But see below.) > BTW is clearing done by userspace or kernel? Does kernel ensure that > possible copies anywhere, e.g. in swap, are obliterated as well? When explicit_bzero is not used, munmap is supposed to be used. I don't know whether munmap obliterates swap. Looking at the current OpenBSD source code[1], it appears they're doing best effort. Unless I'm missing something, in some cases freezero appears to call memset instead of explicit_bzero. Even if that were changed, on real systems I expect the data are too often still lying around somewhere in the hardware. I suppose the idea is that it's better than nothing. OpenBSD freezero is tightly linked to reallocarray, in that reallocarray is documented to clear any old object with explicit_bzero before returning the new object's address. If this is the idea, it makes little sense to add freezero without also modifying reallocarray. Unfortunately, a reasonable amount of GNU code is written assuming that reallocarray is not significantly slower than realloc so this approach sounds dubious. With all this in mind it would be better to add a better API, as Alan proposed, than to standardize on freezero. The name 'freezeroall' is a bit hard to read, though - how about calling it 'clearfree' instead? ("clear" before "free" because that's the order it's conceptually done.) One minor QoI detail: OpenBSD freezero is slower than 'free' for other reasons, as it does more checking of internal data structures. I guess the idea is that freezero is gonna be slow anyway, so why not? [1] https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c
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