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Message-ID: <CALmYWFsvKq+yN4qHhBamxyjtcy9myg8_t3Nc=5KErG=DDaDAEA@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:57:27 -0700 From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...gle.com> To: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>, Alejandro Colomar <alx@...nel.org>, Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>, Christian Heimes <christian@...hon.org>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>, Eric Chiang <ericchiang@...gle.com>, Fan Wu <wufan@...ux.microsoft.com>, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>, James Morris <jamorris@...ux.microsoft.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Jordan R Abrahams <ajordanr@...gle.com>, Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@...ux.microsoft.com>, Luca Boccassi <bluca@...ian.org>, Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>, "Madhavan T . Venkataraman" <madvenka@...ux.microsoft.com>, Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@...gle.com>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@...hat.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>, Nicolas Bouchinet <nicolas.bouchinet@....gouv.fr>, Scott Shell <scottsh@...rosoft.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>, Steve Dower <steve.dower@...hon.org>, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@...hat.com>, Thibaut Sautereau <thibaut.sautereau@....gouv.fr>, Vincent Strubel <vincent.strubel@....gouv.fr>, Xiaoming Ni <nixiaoming@...wei.com>, Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@...el.com>, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v19 1/5] exec: Add a new AT_CHECK flag to execveat(2) On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 2:18 AM Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 10:52:36AM -0700, Jeff Xu wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 10:33 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com> wrote: > > > > > > * Jeff Xu: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 9:26 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> * Jeff Xu: > > > >> > > > >> > Will dynamic linkers use the execveat(AT_CHECK) to check shared > > > >> > libraries too ? or just the main executable itself. > > > >> > > > >> I expect that dynamic linkers will have to do this for everything they > > > >> map. > > > > Then all the objects (.so, .sh, etc.) will go through the check from > > > > execveat's main to security_bprm_creds_for_exec(), some of them might > > > > be specific for the main executable ? > > Yes, we should check every executable code (including seccomp filters) > to get a consistent policy. > > What do you mean by "specific for the main executable"? > I meant: The check is for the exe itself, not .so, etc. For example: /usr/bin/touch is checked. not the shared objects: ldd /usr/bin/touch linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffdc988f000) libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f59b6757000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f59b6986000) Basically, I asked if the check can be extended to shared-objects, seccomp filters, etc, without modifying existing LSMs. you pointed out "LSM should not need to be updated with this patch series.", which already answered my question. Thanks. -Jeff -Jeff
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