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Message-ID: <CALmYWFuFE=V7sGp0_K+2Vuk6F0chzhJY88CP1CAE9jtd=rqcoQ@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 15:07:24 -0700 From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...gle.com> To: Steve Dower <steve.dower@...hon.org> Cc: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>, Alejandro Colomar <alx@...nel.org>, Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>, Christian Heimes <christian@...hon.org>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>, Eric Chiang <ericchiang@...gle.com>, Fan Wu <wufan@...ux.microsoft.com>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>, James Morris <jamorris@...ux.microsoft.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Jordan R Abrahams <ajordanr@...gle.com>, Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@...ux.microsoft.com>, Luca Boccassi <bluca@...ian.org>, Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>, "Madhavan T . Venkataraman" <madvenka@...ux.microsoft.com>, Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@...gle.com>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@...hat.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>, Nicolas Bouchinet <nicolas.bouchinet@....gouv.fr>, Scott Shell <scottsh@...rosoft.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@...hat.com>, Thibaut Sautereau <thibaut.sautereau@....gouv.fr>, Vincent Strubel <vincent.strubel@....gouv.fr>, Xiaoming Ni <nixiaoming@...wei.com>, Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@...el.com>, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v19 2/5] security: Add new SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK and SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT securebits On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 2:25 PM Steve Dower <steve.dower@...hon.org> wrote: > > On 08/07/2024 22:15, Jeff Xu wrote: > > IIUC: > > CHECK=0, RESTRICT=0: do nothing, current behavior > > CHECK=1, RESTRICT=0: permissive mode - ignore AT_CHECK results. > > CHECK=0, RESTRICT=1: call AT_CHECK, deny if AT_CHECK failed, no exception. > > CHECK=1, RESTRICT=1: call AT_CHECK, deny if AT_CHECK failed, except > > those in the "checked-and-allowed" list. > > I had much the same question for Mickaël while working on this. > > Essentially, "CHECK=0, RESTRICT=1" means to restrict without checking. > In the context of a script or macro interpreter, this just means it will > never interpret any scripts. Non-binary code execution is fully disabled > in any part of the process that respects these bits. > I see, so Mickaël does mean this will block all scripts. I guess, in the context of dynamic linker, this means: no more .so loading, even "dlopen" is called by an app ? But this will make the execve() fail. > "CHECK=1, RESTRICT=1" means to restrict unless AT_CHECK passes. This > case is the allow list (or whatever mechanism is being used to determine > the result of an AT_CHECK check). The actual mechanism isn't the > business of the script interpreter at all, it just has to refuse to > execute anything that doesn't pass the check. So a generic interpreter > can implement a generic mechanism and leave the specifics to whoever > configures the machine. > In the context of dynamic linker. this means: if .so passed the AT_CHECK, ldopen() can still load it. If .so fails the AT_CHECK, ldopen() will fail too. Thanks -Jeff > The other two case are more obvious. "CHECK=0, RESTRICT=0" is the > zero-overhead case, while "CHECK=1, RESTRICT=0" might log, warn, or > otherwise audit the result of the check, but it won't restrict execution. > > Cheers, > Steve
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