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Message-ID: <23abb989-c20c-0dc0-019c-272beca8cee6@linux.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 20:30:09 +0300 From: Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com> To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com> Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>, Maciej Rozycki <macro@...am.me.uk>, Muchun Song <songmuchun@...edance.com>, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>, Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>, Wei Liu <wl@....org>, John Ogness <john.ogness@...utronix.de>, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>, Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@...abs.ru>, Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>, David S Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, notify@...nel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce the pkill_on_warn boot parameter On 05.10.2021 22:48, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Especially as calling do_group_exit(SIGKILL) from a random location is > not a clean way to kill a process. Strictly speaking it is not even > killing the process. > > Partly this is just me seeing the introduction of a > do_group_exit(SIGKILL) call and not likely the maintenance that will be > needed. I am still sorting out the problems with other randomly placed > calls to do_group_exit(SIGKILL) and interactions with ptrace and > PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT in particular. > > Which is a long winded way of saying if I can predictably trigger a > warning that calls do_group_exit(SIGKILL), on some architectures I can > use ptrace and can convert that warning into a way to manipulate the > kernel stack to have the contents of my choice. > > If anyone goes forward with this please use the existing oops > infrastructure so the ptrace interactions and anything else that comes > up only needs to be fixed once. Hello Eric, hello everyone. I learned the oops infrastructure and see that it's arch-specific. The architectures have separate implementations of the die() function with different prototypes. I don't see how to use the oops infrastructure for killing all threads in a process that hits a kernel warning. What do you think about doing the same as the oom_killer (and some other subsystems)? It kills all threads in a process this way: do_send_sig_info(SIGKILL, SEND_SIG_PRIV, current, PIDTYPE_TGID). The oom_killer also shows a nice way to avoid killing init and kthreads: static bool oom_unkillable_task(struct task_struct *p) { if (is_global_init(p)) return true; if (p->flags & PF_KTHREAD) return true; return false; } I want to do something similar. I would appreciate your comments. Best regards, Alexander
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