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Message-ID: <c7fbf088-02c2-6cac-f353-14bff23d6864@digikod.net> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 21:06:25 +0100 From: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> To: Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com> Cc: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>, Serge Hallyn <serge@...lyn.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>, Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, Dominik Brodowski <linux@...inikbrodowski.net>, "Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>, John Johansen <john.johansen@...onical.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Kentaro Takeda <takedakn@...data.co.jp>, Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>, kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>, Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ux.microsoft.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] fs: Allow no_new_privs tasks to call chroot(2) On 16/03/2021 20:31, Jann Horn wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:26 PM Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> wrote: >> On 16/03/2021 20:04, Jann Horn wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 6:02 PM Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net> wrote: >>>> One could argue that chroot(2) is useless without a properly populated >>>> root hierarchy (i.e. without /dev and /proc). However, there are >>>> multiple use cases that don't require the chrooting process to create >>>> file hierarchies with special files nor mount points, e.g.: >>>> * A process sandboxing itself, once all its libraries are loaded, may >>>> not need files other than regular files, or even no file at all. >>>> * Some pre-populated root hierarchies could be used to chroot into, >>>> provided for instance by development environments or tailored >>>> distributions. >>>> * Processes executed in a chroot may not require access to these special >>>> files (e.g. with minimal runtimes, or by emulating some special files >>>> with a LD_PRELOADed library or seccomp). >>>> >>>> Unprivileged chroot is especially interesting for userspace developers >>>> wishing to harden their applications. For instance, chroot(2) and Yama >>>> enable to build a capability-based security (i.e. remove filesystem >>>> ambient accesses) by calling chroot/chdir with an empty directory and >>>> accessing data through dedicated file descriptors obtained with >>>> openat2(2) and RESOLVE_BENEATH/RESOLVE_IN_ROOT/RESOLVE_NO_MAGICLINKS. >>> >>> I don't entirely understand. Are you writing this with the assumption >>> that a future change will make it possible to set these RESOLVE flags >>> process-wide, or something like that? >> >> No, this scenario is for applications willing to sandbox themselves and >> only use the FDs to access legitimate data. > > But if you're chrooted to /proc/self/fdinfo and have an fd to some > directory - let's say /home/user/Downloads - there is nothing that > ensures that you only use that fd with RESOLVE_BENEATH, right? If the > application is compromised, it can do something like openat(fd, > "../.bashrc", O_RDWR), right? Or am I missing something? You're totally right, I was mistaken, this simple use case doesn't work without a broker. Perhaps when seccomp will be able to check referenced structs, or with a new FD limitation… > >>> As long as that doesn't exist, I think that to make this safe, you'd >>> have to do something like the following - let a child process set up a >>> new mount namespace for you, and then chroot() into that namespace's >>> root: >>> >>> struct shared_data { >>> int root_fd; >>> }; >>> int helper_fn(void *args) { >>> struct shared_data *shared = args; >>> mount("none", "/tmp", "tmpfs", MS_NOSUID|MS_NODEV, ""); >>> mkdir("/tmp/old_root", 0700); >>> pivot_root("/tmp", "/tmp/old_root"); >>> umount("/tmp/old_root", ""); >>> shared->root_fd = open("/", O_PATH); >>> } >>> void setup_chroot() { >>> struct shared_data shared = {}; >>> prctl(PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS, 1, 0, 0, 0); >>> clone(helper_fn, my_stack, >>> CLONE_VFORK|CLONE_VM|CLONE_FILES|CLONE_NEWUSER|CLONE_NEWNS|SIGCHLD, >>> NULL); >>> fchdir(shared.root_fd); >>> chroot("."); >>> } >> >> What about this? >> chdir("/proc/self/fdinfo"); >> chroot("."); >> close(all unnecessary FDs); > > That breaks down if you can e.g. get a unix domain socket connected to > a process in a different chroot, right? Isn't that a bit too fragile? This relies on other (trusted) components, and yes it is fragile if the process communicates with a service able send FDs.
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