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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 15:53:45 -0800
From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
Cc: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@...gle.com>, Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>, 
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, 
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/17] Add support for Clang LTO

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 3:30 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 21:19, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:30 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 00:42, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for continuing to drive this series Sami.  For the series,
> > > >
> > > > Tested-by: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
> > > >
> > > > I did virtualized boot tests with the series applied to aarch64
> > > > defconfig without CONFIG_LTO, with CONFIG_LTO_CLANG, and a third time
> > > > with CONFIG_THINLTO.  If you make changes to the series in follow ups,
> > > > please drop my tested by tag from the modified patches and I'll help
> > > > re-test.  Some minor feedback on the Kconfig change, but I'll post it
> > > > off of that patch.
> > > >
> > >
> > > When you say 'virtualized" do you mean QEMU on x86? Or actual
> > > virtualization on an AArch64 KVM host?
> >
> > aarch64 guest on x86_64 host.  If you have additional configurations
> > that are important to you, additional testing help would be
> > appreciated.
> >
>
> Could you run this on an actual phone? Or does Android already ship
> with this stuff?

By `this`, if you mean "the LTO series", it has been shipping on
Android phones for years now, I think it's even required in the latest
release.

If you mean "the LTO series + mainline" on a phone, well there's the
android-mainline of https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/,
in which this series was recently removed in order to facilitate
rebasing Android's patches on ToT-mainline until getting the series
landed upstream.  Bit of a chicken and the egg problem there.

If you mean "the LTO series + mainline + KVM" on a phone; I don't know
the precise state of aarch64 KVM and Android (Will or Marc would
know).  We did experiment recently with RockPI's for aach64 KVM, IIRC;
I think Android is tricky as it still requires A64+A32/T32 chipsets,
Alistair would know more.  Might be interesting to boot a virtualized
(or paravirtualized?) guest built with LTO in a host built with LTO
for sure, but I don't know if we have tried that yet (I think we did
try LTO guests of android kernels, but I think they were on the stock
RockPI host BSP image IIRC).

> > > The distinction is important here, given the potential impact of LTO
> > > on things that QEMU simply does not model when it runs in TCG mode on
> > > a foreign host architecture.

-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

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