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Message-ID: <060292c1-5ce5-0183-8500-c92063351a69@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 11:02:32 +0200 From: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@...il.com> To: Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>, Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@....com> Cc: libc-alpha@...rceware.org, Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@....com>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Salvatore Mesoraca <s.mesoraca16@...il.com>, Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@...inter.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] aarch64: avoid mprotect(PROT_BTI|PROT_EXEC) [BZ #26831] On 3.11.2020 19.34, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 10:25:37AM +0000, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > >> Re-mmap executable segments instead of mprotecting them in >> case mprotect is seccomp filtered. > >> For the kernel mapped main executable we don't have the fd >> for re-mmap so linux needs to be updated to add BTI. (In the >> presence of seccomp filters for mprotect(PROT_EXEC) the libc >> cannot change BTI protection at runtime based on user space >> policy so it is better if the kernel maps BTI compatible >> binaries with PROT_BTI by default.) > > Given that there were still some ongoing discussions on a more robust > kernel interface here and there seem to be a few concerns with this > series should we perhaps just take a step back and disable this seccomp > filter in systemd on arm64, at least for the time being? Filtering mprotect() and mmap() with seccomp also protects BTI, since without it the attacker could remove PROT_BTI from existing pages, or map new pages without BTI. This would be possible even with SARA or SELinux execmem protections enabled, since they don't care about PROT_BTI. -Topi
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