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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2010060833000.99155@www.lameter.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 08:35:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com> To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Alexander Popov <alex.popov@...ux.com>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>, Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>, Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>, Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, Eric Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Daniel Micay <danielmicay@...il.com>, Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@...x.de>, Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>, kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>, kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, notify@...nel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/6] Break heap spraying needed for exploiting use-after-free On Mon, 5 Oct 2020, Kees Cook wrote: > > TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, but if forcing that on by default would enhance security > > by a measurable amount, it wouldn't be a terribly hard sell ... > > Isn't the "easy" version of this already controlled by slab_merge? (i.e. > do not share same-sized/flagged kmem_caches between different caches) Right. > The large trouble are the kmalloc caches, which don't have types > associated with them. Having implicit kmem caches based on the type > being allocated there would need some pretty extensive plumbing, I > think? Actually typifying those accesses may get rid of a lot of kmalloc allocations and could help to ease the management and control of objects. It may be a big task though given the ubiquity of kmalloc and the need to create a massive amount of new slab caches. This is going to reduce the cache hit rate significantly.
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