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Message-ID: <20200910200543.GY6583@casper.infradead.org> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 21:05:43 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> To: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk> Cc: Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>, Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>, Christian Heimes <christian@...hon.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, Deven Bowers <deven.desai@...ux.microsoft.com>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>, Eric Chiang <ericchiang@...gle.com>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>, James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@...ux.microsoft.com>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...gle.com>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@...hat.com>, Philippe Trébuchet <philippe.trebuchet@....gouv.fr>, Scott Shell <scottsh@...rosoft.com>, Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, Steve Dower <steve.dower@...hon.org>, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@...hat.com>, Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>, Thibaut Sautereau <thibaut.sautereau@...p-os.org>, Vincent Strubel <vincent.strubel@....gouv.fr>, kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 0/3] Add introspect_access(2) (was O_MAYEXEC) On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 09:00:10PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:40:33PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 08:38:21PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote: > > > There is also the use case of noexec mounts and file permissions. From > > > user space point of view, it doesn't matter which kernel component is in > > > charge of defining the policy. The syscall should then not be tied with > > > a verification/integrity/signature/appraisal vocabulary, but simply an > > > access control one. > > > > permission()? > > int lsm(int fd, const char *how, char *error, int size); > > Seriously, this is "ask LSM to apply special policy to file"; let's > _not_ mess with flags, etc. for that; give it decent bandwidth > and since it's completely opaque for the rest of the kernel, > just a pass a string to be parsed by LSM as it sees fit. Hang on, it does have some things which aren't BD^W^WLSM. It lets the interpreter honour the mount -o noexec option. I presume it's not easily defeated by cat /home/salaun/bin/bad.pl | perl -
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